tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post5908706123574341729..comments2023-09-12T12:07:08.126-02:30Comments on Web Talk - Newfoundland and Labrador: Crosbie Pushed PM to Honour Offshore DealsPatriothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17364831921954903098noreply@blogger.comBlogger90125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-14489570565078418822007-06-12T23:05:00.000-02:302007-06-12T23:05:00.000-02:30"Typical Liberial.Using the hardwork of others .Na..."Typical Liberial.Using the hardwork of others .Namely Patriot and his Blog.To promote the usage of his own point of view.Now if's thats not a typical Canadain Liberial theni don't know what isn't .<BR/>Hey Scumbag ,why not try and reach reader's thru your own hard work ,F$#@^ Parasite.Hers another idiot that needs to be woken-up to the real world .<BR/>Buddy if you did that in anyother part of canada ,you would be sued.lol,the great canadian defender gets sued.Loser."<BR/><BR/>i would chastise my children for being so mentally lazy and using such poor language.<BR/><BR/>be better, anonymous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-89448671282010669012007-06-12T22:44:00.000-02:302007-06-12T22:44:00.000-02:30"why not try and reach reader's thru your own hard..."why not try and reach reader's thru your own hard work"<BR/><BR/>The Sir Robert Bond Papers.<BR/><BR/>Try reading it some time.Edward Holletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13152397042408814142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-83099821883500422752007-06-12T22:22:00.000-02:302007-06-12T22:22:00.000-02:30Edward G. Hollett said... "Thanks! But it is st...Edward G. Hollett said...<BR/><BR/> "Thanks! But it is still not explained to my satisfaction. I would like to know where you differ with Premier Williams and how you differ on all points."<BR/><BR/> On all points? We could be here for months covering the agreements and disagreements.<BR/><BR/> Try reading Bond Papers and you'll get a much better sense of what is going on and what my views are. <BR/><BR/>Typical Liberial.Using the hardwork of others .Namely Patriot and his Blog.To promote the usage of his own point of view.Now if's thats not a typical Canadain Liberial theni don't know what isn't .<BR/>Hey Scumbag ,why not try and reach reader's thru your own hard work ,F$#@^ Parasite.Hers another idiot that needs to be woken-up to the real world .<BR/>Buddy if you did that in anyother part of canada ,you would be sued.lol,the great canadian defender gets sued.Loser.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-76247745372858729382007-06-11T19:59:00.000-02:302007-06-11T19:59:00.000-02:30thanks, latest anonymous, for clearing that up :-S...thanks, latest anonymous, for clearing that up :-SAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-58244728196494298312007-06-11T19:46:00.000-02:302007-06-11T19:46:00.000-02:30Thanks to Mr. Hollett! Sorry I didn't mean to con...Thanks to Mr. Hollett! Sorry I didn't mean to confound you babe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-70136240013647416562007-06-11T18:57:00.000-02:302007-06-11T18:57:00.000-02:30anonymous said "Thanks!"to who? for what? this is ...anonymous said "Thanks!"<BR/><BR/>to who? for what? this is so confusing :-( i try to keep on top of the posts, but even handles would make it easier than "anonymous" :-(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-71541488740632115352007-06-11T16:29:00.000-02:302007-06-11T16:29:00.000-02:30Thanks!Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-10310049483655212612007-06-11T14:25:00.000-02:302007-06-11T14:25:00.000-02:30I popped on over to 'toilet papers', nothing but f...I popped on over to 'toilet papers', nothing but federal hackery at its finest!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-52448342661361923062007-06-11T14:12:00.000-02:302007-06-11T14:12:00.000-02:30"Thanks! But it is still not explained to my satis..."Thanks! But it is still not explained to my satisfaction. I would like to know where you differ with Premier Williams and how you differ on all points."<BR/><BR/>On all points? We could be here for months covering the agreements and disagreements.<BR/><BR/>Try reading Bond Papers and you'll get a much better sense of what is going on and what my views are.Edward Holletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13152397042408814142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-70855596442309091662007-06-11T13:48:00.000-02:302007-06-11T13:48:00.000-02:30anonymous:youre right. you have no idea of my educ...anonymous:<BR/><BR/>youre right. you have no idea of my educational background, as i have no idea of yours. as it happens, i dont think much about most educational credentials. some of the best and wisest people ive ever known never went to school at all.<BR/><BR/>by the way - you introduced the idea of education and you still havent answered my question. whats your claim to fame? what credentials do YOU have for stating your opinions like theyre fact? are you an expert in economics? history? geopolitics? who recognizes you as an expert? except you i mean.<BR/><BR/>you said "It is nice to know though where people are coming from in their idealogies towards the province of Newfoundland and Labrador, so please keep on posting, since through your postings we know with whom we are really dealing with and whose side you are on. I hope somebody in government is taking note of that." <BR/><BR/>you have no idea of my ideology either. i am a newfoundlander. i wont be told how to be a newfoundlander or how to love my province, not by anyone. but i do reserve the right to comment on issues that interest me, just as you do. <BR/><BR/>you hope "someone in government will take note of" - what? babe in boyland's ideology and loyalties, as interpreted by an anonymous poster on a private blog? i cant see why anyone in government, federal or provincial, would care. monitoring the comments coming out of these blogs may be interesting and might give some insight into general public opinion but i think both levels of government are too busy with running the province and the country to monitor blogs and then hunt down the identities of particular posters. <BR/><BR/>despite what some posters think, neither level of government is operating some kind of "v for vendetta" government control operation. <BR/><BR/>i dont see eye to eye with either level of government, but i have more faith in both of them than to believe THAT - if for no other reason than they cant be bothered to allocate scarce resources so foolishly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-36537497272158704082007-06-11T13:35:00.000-02:302007-06-11T13:35:00.000-02:30Thanks! But it is still not explained to my satis...Thanks! But it is still not explained to my satisfaction. I would like to know where you differ with Premier Williams and how you differ on all points.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-37350893832626458552007-06-11T12:46:00.000-02:302007-06-11T12:46:00.000-02:30Well, if those comments are addressed to me, anon,...Well, if those comments are addressed to me, anon, maybe you can state what you heard and I'll set the record straight.<BR/><BR/>There are too many anony-slaggers stating things that aren't true.<BR/><BR/>I can state unequivocally that the Premier is on another tack from me when it comes to the federal budget even though the starting point is the same. <BR/><BR/>He's chasing after defeating Harper and getting something that is politically impossible (he's also known it was politically impossible for most of the past year).<BR/><BR/>What I have talked about is the unilateral changes to the 1985 Atlantic Accord and the 2005 side deal. There is absolutely no need to cap either agreement, and the way the 1985 deal is being changed puts in jeopardy the entire 1985 Accord on which the oil industry is built.<BR/><BR/>But look, I can state my position clearly and concisely, as I have repeatedly on these comment threads. <BR/><BR/>Some people deliberately misrepresent my views for their own purposes and do so from behind the coward's cloak of anonymity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-34960304850974551452007-06-11T11:48:00.000-02:302007-06-11T11:48:00.000-02:30Didn't I hear you completely opposing Premier Will...Didn't I hear you completely opposing Premier Williams back three years ago in his quest in getting a better deal for Newfoundland and Labrador from the Atlantic Accord? Matter of fact I couldn't believe the utterances I was hearing out of you. And what I have heard you say recently doesn't really concur with what the Premier is saying.<BR/><BR/>Maybe you can state here why you opposed the Premier back three years ago and how much in sync you are today with his ideologies on the changes that the Budget of 2007 will present to the Atlantic Accord and the benefits to be accrued by the province of Newfoundland and Labrador as a result of the changes.<BR/><BR/>Maybe our differences can be put to rest if you state in a clear and consice way what your views were back three years ago and what they are today. THANKSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-48218456627175890582007-06-11T11:46:00.000-02:302007-06-11T11:46:00.000-02:30According to the same two Spin Doctors, we do not ...<B>According to the same two Spin Doctors, we do not need 5 per cent equity in our Oil. Let the big oil conglomerates and the Federal government use it as they please</B><BR/><BR/>How would the federal government "use" equity in "our Oil", other than by doing what anyone else does to get equity: paying for it?WJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08070910923518931583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-39991910685803813902007-06-11T11:19:00.000-02:302007-06-11T11:19:00.000-02:30"And the fact that they are opposing the changes m..."And the fact that they are opposing the changes made in the 2007 Federal Budget to a 1985 Contract between the Provincial Governement and the Federal Government, namely the Atlantic Accord, should also tell you where these people are coming from."<BR/><BR/>Actually, this complete falsehood tells everyone where you are coming from, whoever you are.<BR/><BR/>Can you provide one signle shred of evidence to support the claim?<BR/><BR/>I didn't think so. otherwise you wouldn't be hiding your identity.<BR/><BR/>Why is that?<BR/><BR/>Why do you want to keep people from knowing who you are?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-39418767856490957262007-06-11T10:46:00.000-02:302007-06-11T10:46:00.000-02:30It is quite apparent how the last two posters spin...It is quite apparent how the last two posters spin for the Federal Government.<BR/><BR/>Everyone in this province except the two of them know that the Fishery has been undermined by Ottawa through allowing too many countries to fish off our coast yet they deny it. It should be a given that we should be taking some equity into our Oil resource, at least 5 per cent, but the two of them vehemently oppose it. Is it because the two of them are also getting some monies from the Oil companies to oppose this, or are all of your salaries coming from the Federal Government. And the fact that they are opposing the changes made in the 2007 Federal Budget to a 1985 Contract between the Provincial Governement and the Federal Government, namely the Atlantic Accord, should also tell you where these people are coming from. They are not working for the people of Newfoundland and Labrador, nor the province. Or have they changed their minds on all three? I notice one of the two changes his mind on things on the toss of a coin, I cannot keep up with the person. He believes what he says is Gospel. He appears to have many personalities. I remain the same. <BR/><BR/>babe from reading your posts, I don't think you have many creditentials in the advanced education department, but I really don't care what your education level is. It is nice to know though where people are coming from in their idealogies towards the province of Newfoundland and Labrador, so please keep on posting, since through your postings we know with whom we are really dealing with and whose side you are on. I hope somebody in government is taking note of that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-67293937606728798152007-06-11T08:07:00.000-02:302007-06-11T08:07:00.000-02:30Obviously, some people are feeling rather intimida...Obviously, some people are feeling rather intimidated. <BR/><BR/>Their ability is being threatened.<BR/><BR/>Their knowledge is called into question.<BR/><BR/>They are feeling insecure.<BR/><BR/>Otherwise, they wouldn't hide behind the coward's cloak of anonymity and then engage in a series of smears like the one committed by the last anony-slagger.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for admitting your shortcomings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-72181405154314537152007-06-11T07:56:00.000-02:302007-06-11T07:56:00.000-02:30last anonymous - since you brought it up, what's Y...last anonymous - since you brought it up, what's YOUR educational and work background? you write as if you cant actually absorb what you read. people write things, you dont respond to the information and then you accuse them of saying something entirely different. my primary school kids do better in reading comprehension than you do.<BR/><BR/>all i can think of is that your 'education' comes from listening to open line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-57661645818721349922007-06-11T03:01:00.000-02:302007-06-11T03:01:00.000-02:30According to the two paid Federal Government Spin ...According to the two paid Federal Government Spin Doctors:<BR/><BR/>1. Everything is okay with the Fishery. Ottawa looked after it, didn't undermine it by giving out fish quotas to countries on every continent on the globe, so say the<BR/>two Spin Doctors, for nothing in return and all we have to do now is put our selves back on auto pilot and ask Ottawa to carry on. My, oh my what kind of people are in this world that would advocate such things?<BR/><BR/>2. According to the same two Spin Doctors, we do not need 5 per cent equity in our Oil. Let the big oil conglomerates and the Federal government use it as they please, Newfoundland and Labrador keep the pattern in motion that you have adapted yourself to, that is give away everything and ask not that you should create economies here so that you inhabitants can stay in the place they love and work there as well.<BR/><BR/>3. Again According to the two Spin Doctors, the Atlantic Accord hasn't been undermined by the changes made in the 2007 Federal Budget. Newfoundland and Labrador keep your faith in Ottawa; follow the same pattern that you have followed for the past 58 years. Don't worry be happy!<BR/><BR/>Really I am wondering where these two Spin Doctors got their education in economics. It must have been from a Cracker Jack Box. An amoeba has more economic sense than the two of the Spin Doctors brains put together.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-9836345704703598052007-06-10T23:09:00.000-02:302007-06-10T23:09:00.000-02:30"You are denying everything that is happening righ..."You are denying everything that is happening right now in front of our eyes. How stupid can you be to deny when we are immersed front and center in all the goings on with regards to the equity in oil, Atlantic Accord destruction, and the destruction of the fish resource that was passed over to Ottawa or was it Ottawa stoled?<BR/><BR/>Open your eyes and ears Sir? Because you are spewing out blasphemous lies."<BR/><BR/>Right off the bat, we are not talking about theology, so whatever we are discussing, there is no one correct dogma. Therefore, there is no one who can be committing "blasphemy".<BR/><BR/>Second, to accuse me of lie-ing is just part of the cowardly anonymous slagging some people resort to when their argument is demolished based on facts and evidence.<BR/><BR/>I disagree with you. That's it. That's all it is. <BR/><BR/>Drop the coward's cloak and call me a liar in plain view.<BR/><BR/>Ditto for calling me stupid. If all you can do is insult me, then you really are only admitting you have no evidence to back up anything you say. <BR/><BR/>Third, the equity position on the offshore isn't a subject we've discussed but I'd be more than happy to discuss it on the basis of fact. <BR/><BR/>Fourth, on the fishery, I have in no way denied what occurred, ie, that the cod stock was destroyed.<BR/><BR/>I have simply pointed out that your accusation that it was done solely by the Government of Canada as some sort of trade for other interests isn't borne out by evidence. If you have the problem wrong, then you'll also go chasing after the wrong solutions. <BR/><BR/>Since you have not been able to offer a single shred of evidence for your claim, I think we can safely conclude you don't have a thing to base your argument on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-8761908275249486062007-06-10T22:52:00.000-02:302007-06-10T22:52:00.000-02:30"blasphemous lies"????Just what religion are we ta..."blasphemous lies"????<BR/><BR/>Just what religion are we talking about here? Just what god is being blasphemed against? However strongly anyone may feel about these political issues, it is wrong and dangerous to blur the line between beliefs about history and politics and truths about God and the nature of life. THAT is what blasphemy is about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-17092123880391676342007-06-10T20:36:00.000-02:302007-06-10T20:36:00.000-02:30You know what happened to the fishery, you know wh...You know what happened to the fishery, you know what is happening to this province with regards to getting a 5 per cent equity out of our oil, and you know what is happening to the Atlantic Accord which was signed in 1985 under another government.<BR/><BR/>You are denying everything that is happening right now in front of our eyes. How stupid can you be to deny when we are immersed front and center in all the goings on with regards to the equity in oil, Atlantic Accord destruction, and the destruction of the fish resource that was passed over to Ottawa or was it Ottawa stoled?<BR/><BR/>Open your eyes and ears Sir? Because you are spewing out blasphemous lies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-51009808410658844972007-06-10T20:32:00.000-02:302007-06-10T20:32:00.000-02:30I really think monies paid out to random people to...I really think monies paid out to random people to spin stories for Ottawa have to stop. They are not only destroying the fishery completely, they are stopping us from getting a better deal from our oil wells and the Atlantic Accord. <BR/><BR/>People who would turn their backs on their province are a sickening sub group. How can they live with themselves? Obviously such people do not have any emotions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-53258418751850783292007-06-10T19:25:00.000-02:302007-06-10T19:25:00.000-02:30Anony-slagger wrote:"Your beliefs are based on the...Anony-slagger wrote:<BR/><BR/>"Your beliefs are based on the spin Ottawa wishes people to believe. Mine is based on the facts of what are happening out there in our off-shore waters. I believe what is being printed by responsible people. I don't believe the spin that Ottawa puts on things. If you want to know the truth of what is going on in the world just read reports put out by Probe International or Transparency International."<BR/><BR/>Well, if you are the same person who previously quoted Transparency International, we see exactly how you misrepresent things, deliberately or otherwise.<BR/><BR/>Your beliefs are clearly not based on facts.<BR/><BR/>Of course, since you post anonymously, we don't know which of the anony-posters you are. Therefore you could be just one person who consistently makes the same mistakes or you could be one of four or five.<BR/><BR/>There's no question though that if you are the person who has been posting anonymously here, your beliefs aren't based on facts. That's the problem. But since you post anonymously, we can';t tell which anonymous person you are who can't tell facts from the nonsense that is typed by anonymous people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-73170499117138102772007-06-10T18:52:00.000-02:302007-06-10T18:52:00.000-02:30Your beliefs are based on the spin Ottawa wishes p...<B>Your beliefs are based on the spin Ottawa wishes people to believe.</B><BR/><BR/>I don't "believe" anything. <BR/><BR/><B>Mine is based on the facts of what are happening out there in our off-shore waters.</B><BR/><BR/>What are those facts?<BR/><BR/><B>I believe what is being printed by responsible people.</B><BR/><BR/>Who are these "responsible people"? Do they have names? If so, what are they?<BR/><BR/>I'd like to read what they have printed.WJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08070910923518931583noreply@blogger.com