tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post7894220302276919148..comments2023-09-12T12:07:08.126-02:30Comments on Web Talk - Newfoundland and Labrador: Where Can You Find 460,000 Newfies?Patriothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17364831921954903098noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-5431705266515495082009-01-28T18:00:00.000-03:302009-01-28T18:00:00.000-03:30Do a search on french frogs - not as many as Newfi...Do a search on french frogs - not as many as Newfie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-48587344676450366952009-01-28T09:42:00.000-03:302009-01-28T09:42:00.000-03:30The terms "Newf" or "Newfie" are considered deroga...The terms "Newf" or "Newfie" are considered derogatory by many Newfoundlanders. Newfoundlanders are of different views as to whether the term "Newf" is as derogatory as the term "Newfie." As with many ethnic groups saddled with pejorative terms, many Newfoundlanders use the terms to refer to themselves or to each other, and in this context they are less offensive than when used by non-Newfoundlanders.<BR/><BR/>Well Patriot at least this group sees our nations as distinct.To bad our multicultural society in Canada doesnt see it that way.It really has to make you think doesnt it.<BR/><BR/>The way I see this defination TW, is in the same context as someone from Poland being called a "Polack" or someone from Pakistan being called a "Packy".<BR/><BR/>I think its high time that Newfoundlanders and Labradoreans change thier mindset.<BR/><BR/>Good Eye On Ya Any How TW !!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-46042865646247327922009-01-28T00:03:00.000-03:302009-01-28T00:03:00.000-03:30Thanks Myles for your response. I guess growing u...Thanks Myles for your response. I guess growing up, I've heard it more around fellow Newfoundlanders saying it to each other, rather than hearing it from Canadians.<BR/><BR/>But your response, aswell as from others, were very insightful. It's disheartening to know that a word originally used to belittle us has spiralled out of control on our own island... by us Newfoundlanders.<BR/><BR/>I came across this website:<BR/>(http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Newfie). Apparently 'Newfie' has been used as early as the 18th century, in a non-derogatory manner.<BR/><BR/>Also, this site may be of some interest aswell.<BR/>(http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Offensive-terms-per-nationality)<BR/><BR/>Keep up the good work Myles.twjtNLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06443933006736140322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-83240693382048127442009-01-27T19:14:00.000-03:302009-01-27T19:14:00.000-03:30When describing this topic Patriot, I very much li...When describing this topic Patriot, I very much like to compare our nation to that of the African American population in the United States. Now some may not agree with my philosophy on how I describe the situations. How both peoples have suffered under different forms of government, but the philosophy of enslavement is extremely similar to any that have studied both cultures on an academic level. <BR/><BR/>Now awhile back you may remember how a certain car company decided to make one of its models and name it after one of our more Famous Bays. This to me would represent the height of this debate. <BR/>The debate came to the conclusion, after many weeks of feverish discussion,that yes it was perfectly alright for Newfoundlanders and Labradoreans to call themselves what they like as long as it was amongst them. As soon as it came away from home, then and only then did it become inappropriate. The same can be said about the use of a certain word used by the African American population in the United States. If someone of the same culture is able to use a certain word in a song or a piece of slang then it’s OK, but if a white man were to use that name it would automatically become an attack on that person’s ethnicity and culture.<BR/><BR/>Personally I feel the same way. If I am in Newfoundland or Labrador it’s perfectly alright for a fellow Newfoundlander to call me a “ N@$$*! “, even though the sound of the word sends a chill thru my spine. It’s not the fact of using the name that bothers me, but rather the history of the word. As one of your readers has so politely pointed out Patriot, it was first created to place or to put the locals in line. It was created as a means of separating a certain group of individuals apart from another group of people. And that my friend is my reason for such hatred of the word.<BR/><BR/>As for this Restraint Patriot I have a little story I want to tell you of and I shall make it short. There was a family from Newfoundland that owned a store back home and decides to move it to Ontario. Now as far as I can tell there are a great number of Newfoundlanders and Labradoreans around the Cambridge, Brantford, and Hamilton area of the Golden horse shoe in Ontario, as was discovered by this certain store owner. Seeing the great market that he had found, he diligently worked away at relocating his store to Ontario. After moving his family and all his belongings to Ontario and opening his store he couldn’t understand why business was so bad. A great many people from the community would drop in and grab their bottle of Lime Crush, slice of turkey role and their Roasted Chicken Flavored Chips, but that was really it. And, how are you going to run a business in Ontario selling bags of potato chips. Well, sad to say that after a year and a half, the gentleman from back home was forced to close his shop. I believe to this day he still doesn’t understand why business was so bad when everything looked so promising. To this day there is no “Newfie Store “ in that part of Ontario, but another business has opened. The Newfoundland Store. The store is thriving and the owner cannot seem to keep the shelves stocked with what people want from back home. <BR/><BR/>Now as for the Goofie Newfie Pub & Grill, at 105 Queen St West, Fergus. I understand that the Pub is owned by Newfoundlanders that have in the past two years relocated to the Fergus area. And, although I wish them all the best, I somehow feel sad for them. Why may you ask? Because, they have yet to learn a very special lesson in life.<BR/><BR/>You can’t sell potato chips and turkey role and make a go of it in Ontario. <BR/><BR/>All the best to you Folks, but this is one Newfoundlander that will not be humiliating himself by visiting such an establishment. For dinner reservations please phone (519) GO-TOHELL, .<BR/><BR/>PS, if I may borrow a line from a certain Blooger ,” it’s time for the Jigg’en to Stop”<BR/><BR/>" Republic Of "Ussrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10368238716997023662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-65185481177911212632009-01-26T13:48:00.000-03:302009-01-26T13:48:00.000-03:30The simple reply is yes but that doesn't do it jus...The simple reply is yes but that doesn't do it justice.<BR/><BR/>Nobody is advocating "harping" on anyone. Perhaps "educating" is a better word.<BR/><BR/>I'm sure that older person meant no harm but, knowing the potential uses of that word wouldn't both you and her have been better served if, after accepting her warm greeting, you gently informed her of the facts around using it?<BR/><BR/>I'm willing to bet she would have accepted your words for what they were and likely would not use the term again. She would probably have also told others in her circle of the situation and helped them understand.<BR/><BR/>You mentioned not using that term yourself. Perhaps you need to ask yourself why you don't. If you don't believe you should use it then why would you consider it OK for others?<BR/><BR/>Also, why do you think everyone at the wedding were, "quite intrigued to ask me a few questions about Newfoundland, and even listen to me speak." and why did you get a big hug just for being a "Newfie"?<BR/><BR/>Could it be because of the crowd had bought into the longstanding stereotype of the "quaint and happy little newfie with the adorable accent"?<BR/><BR/>Do you really consider yourself that person?Patriothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17364831921954903098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-5797977476069035212009-01-26T13:08:00.000-03:302009-01-26T13:08:00.000-03:30Now this is one topic I'm very much torn between. ...Now this is one topic I'm very much torn between. In the dictionary of Newfoundland English, it seems as though 'Newfie' was derogatory from the start.<BR/><BR/>I know there are those who call us 'Newfies' to belittle or make fun of us. But then I also look at it on the other side.<BR/><BR/>Recently, I went to Saskatchewan for a wedding. Being the only Newfoundlander there, surprisingly, people seemed quite intrigued to ask me a few questions about Newfoundland, and even listen to me speak.<BR/><BR/>An older lady came up to me with a huge smile on her face and asked, 'Are you a Newfie?'. I had a very brief moment of hesitation, but I said 'yes'. With that, she gave me the biggest hug because I was the first Newfoundlander she's met.<BR/><BR/>I think about this quite often: There's Aussies, Kiwis, Brits, Canucks, Yanks... is Newfie any different?<BR/><BR/>I always call myself a Newfoundlander, but should I harp on people who call me a 'Newfie' with no harm intended?twjtNLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06443933006736140322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-41864441892788639752009-01-26T10:29:00.000-03:302009-01-26T10:29:00.000-03:30When I wrote about this I recieved more response t...When I wrote about this I recieved more response than any other article. Many Newfoundlanders and Labradorians are ready to bury the word. Many others are keeping it alive. I think the context of where this word comes from is important to know. In the dictionary of Newfoundland English:<BR/><BR/>"Now he felt dispossessed, crowded on his own streets, mowed down by the ever-increasing numbers of dun-coloured, army vehicles. The strangers were strutting, becoming the 'big-shots,' They looked down their noses at the natives. They were disdainful of a hard old heritage. They began to call the towns-folk 'the Newfies' and like Queen Victoria, the Newfoundlanders were not amused."BornandBredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02621175900522933856noreply@blogger.com