tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post8143053826502931947..comments2023-09-12T12:07:08.126-02:30Comments on Web Talk - Newfoundland and Labrador: Fledgling Federal Party Steps Into Ottawa - NL DisputePatriothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17364831921954903098noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-51367131626914262542007-10-19T13:15:00.000-02:302007-10-19T13:15:00.000-02:30Even if the NL-First party only elects 1 member to...Even if the NL-First party only elects 1 member to represent us. It will give the other elected members an option to cross the floor if they find themselves in conflict with the party line and what's in the best interest of their province and the constituents who elected him or her to represent them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-54394070101738715822007-10-19T10:05:00.000-02:302007-10-19T10:05:00.000-02:30William's needs to "help" this new party find 7 hi...William's needs to "help" this new party find 7 high profile and dependeble candidates that he will feel comfortable supporting and who have a solid chance of getting elected. <BR/><BR/>I'd love to see the impact of sending a group of NL voices to Ottawa.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-51478746020572934902007-10-18T23:58:00.000-02:302007-10-18T23:58:00.000-02:30I would have to agree October 18, 2007 5:51 PM,in ...I would have to agree October 18, 2007 5:51 PM,in a minority situation 7 seat's could mean the rise or fall of any governement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-20692233469377117022007-10-18T20:20:00.000-02:302007-10-18T20:20:00.000-02:30"if we are going to play federal politics, lets pl..."if we are going to play federal politics, lets play federal politics. let's understand the shape of the field, the lines on it and and rules of the came."<BR/><BR/>October 18, 2007 4:17 PM - So Babe,you would agree then that things should just stay the same.Or,do you believe that we haven't learned enough from the last 58 years.<BR/><BR/>I would rather see our vote amount to the sham it is then to continue down the same road of "toe the line "party politics of what we have today.Has it really gotten us anywere.It works for those that have the power,not those that need it to make a better life for there familys.<BR/><BR/>AHHHH,life in Canuckistan !!!And the Balkinization of Canada. <BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpKRd2xQeq8&mode=related&search=<BR/><BR/>What is coming ,or are we already there!!! Its really hard to say that they were wrong and we were right ,don't you think!!!Hope you enjoy it but I doubt it will get thru!!!Ussrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04468652036222401731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-19219179836164523462007-10-18T18:12:00.000-02:302007-10-18T18:12:00.000-02:30if we are going to play federal politics, lets pla...<B>if we are going to play federal politics, lets play federal politics. let's understand the shape of the field, the lines on it and and rules of the came.</B><BR/><BR/>We've been doing this (the above suggestion) for the past 60 years and look where we are. Try again. <BR/><BR/>I believe that seven united NL MPs will be a stronger voice for this province. By withdrawing our support and consent for a miserable failure of a political system by not contributing to the power-blocks-that-be our message will get through.stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06192434366533809267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-41300530123042597452007-10-18T17:51:00.000-02:302007-10-18T17:51:00.000-02:30Babe,I see it as a bit short sighted and innaccura...Babe,<BR/><BR/>I see it as a bit short sighted and innaccurate.<BR/><BR/>Canada is going to see a lot of minority governments in the years ahead. 7 MPs can make a big difference in that case.<BR/><BR/>Remember the independent MP who carried the deciding vote that saw the Atlantic Accord become a reality? That was one voice without party affiliations.<BR/><BR/>In a close minority 7 votes can be leveraged into getting concessions from the government side on specific issues in return for their support (as long as the legislation they are willing to support is reasonable).<BR/><BR/>You want to talk about the rules of the game there you go. Politics doesn't just happen in the House. It happens behind the scenes and 7 strong voices can be effective, probably more effective than having 7 puppets there who are only interested in impressing their party handlers and their federal leader.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-56978033067123698962007-10-18T16:17:00.000-02:302007-10-18T16:17:00.000-02:30folks:as laudable as the sentiment is, the "nl fir...folks:<BR/><BR/>as laudable as the sentiment is, the "nl first" party is doomed to failure because even with total support from its target constituency - newfoundlanders and labradorians - it can only ever have 7 seats in the house of commons. it's not LIKE the bloq - quebec has enough seats to make a big difference to both house votes and elections.<BR/><BR/>if we are going to play federal politics, lets play federal politics. let's understand the shape of the field, the lines on it and and rules of the came.babe in boylandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03821805970026229611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-52081789440246545102007-10-18T14:04:00.000-02:302007-10-18T14:04:00.000-02:30They have my vote. No way I will vote for any of ...They have my vote. No way I will vote for any of the Federal parties. Liberals made a complete mess and Harper is a liar. NDP and Green will never, ever, get my vote.<BR/><BR/>So when the next election rolls around, I have no one to vote for but NL First.Wincehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18112726077440157616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-35278525602126904972007-10-18T11:50:00.000-02:302007-10-18T11:50:00.000-02:30To the anon who sent in a comment today commenting...To the anon who sent in a comment today commenting on a specific person who recently ran in an election, I have opted not to publish that comment for the following reason.<BR/><BR/>The person identifed is not currently holding public office and since the election is over, not running for one. When that person was actively seeking office it was fair and appropriate to openly discuss him publicly but now that he is a private citizen like the rest of us, I don't believe it's appropriate to do so when the topic at hand is not directly related to him.<BR/><BR/>Thanks,<BR/>MylesPatriothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17364831921954903098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-70189691392001957622007-10-17T21:56:00.000-02:302007-10-17T21:56:00.000-02:30Maybe this time they'll get more than 31 votes.Maybe this time they'll get more than 31 votes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-61850332747185392902007-10-17T19:05:00.000-02:302007-10-17T19:05:00.000-02:30www.nlfirst.cawww.nlfirst.caAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-35964078472453770152007-10-17T18:18:00.001-02:302007-10-17T18:18:00.001-02:30I have to say, this is the first time I've heard o...I have to say, this is the first time I've heard of NL First but I plan to vote for them if they run in my riding.<BR/><BR/>I hope danny get's onboard. It's about time we stood up and were counted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-1801329756520326162007-10-17T18:18:00.000-02:302007-10-17T18:18:00.000-02:30I have to say, this is the first time I've heard o...I have to say, this is the first time I've heard of NL First but I plan to vote for them if they run in my riding.<BR/><BR/>I hope danny get's onboard. It's about time we stood up and were counted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-6932593787017238892007-10-17T14:52:00.000-02:302007-10-17T14:52:00.000-02:30Well Myles,I will say that this is make or break f...Well Myles,I will say that this is make or break for me.<BR/><BR/>If Newfoundlanders and Labradorians do not stand-up for themselves now,then,I will simply walk away from hope and start to believe what all those Mainlander types have been saying.<BR/><BR/>- Culture Of defeat !!! <BR/>- Defeatist Attuide !!!<BR/>- Inability to Defend themselves!!!<BR/><BR/>Hearing such talk on the internet,and reading storys is all fine and dandy.But,will we have the collective will to throw off this mental shackel that we have and finally stand for ourselves!!!<BR/><BR/>Like a fool buying a lotttery ticket,I always kept hope and faith that someday I would see Newfoundland and Labrador with her own Party.A party that would in fact stand for the best interst of the people that she represents!!!<BR/><BR/>Well it seems that she is entering a new era in her history.Will we stand now and be counted or will we keep thease mental chains on our ankles and show canada how truely dependant we are!!!<BR/><BR/>This is a dire moment to for Williams.Will he now stand with those that he has worked with and throw his support behind them or has he played his last card!!!<BR/><BR/>This Myles,is turning out to be a key moment.Cover your eyes folk's cause i think that something is going to hit the fan!!!Ussrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04468652036222401731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-77515155415388117912007-10-17T14:35:00.000-02:302007-10-17T14:35:00.000-02:30Here's the blurb from VOCM.com if you're intereste...Here's the blurb from VOCM.com if you're interested stephen:<BR/><BR/>The Newfoundland and Labrador First Party wants to get the premier on side, to support their candidates in the next federal election. Party Leader Tom Hickey told VOCM Back Talk with Bill Rowe, he hopes to get the premier to turn the ABC (Anyone But Conservative) campaign, into a positive campaign in favour of actual candidates and a party to represent the province's best interests. Hickey says he's been hearing from staunch PC's who are not going to vote Liberal, or NDP because they feel the candidates will still dance to their own party leader's tune anyway. Hickey believes Danny Williams has the power to give this province that Newfoundland and Labrador First voice in the House of Commons.Patriothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17364831921954903098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-64761494664570941082007-10-17T14:32:00.000-02:302007-10-17T14:32:00.000-02:30I doubt it made the news media at this point since...I doubt it made the news media at this point since Williams has yet to respond to the request by the party (at least as far as anyone other than he or the party exec knows).<BR/><BR/>I heard Mr. Hickey on VOCM Talk Back with Bill Rowe yesterday outlining this and it also appeared on the VOCM web site today.<BR/><BR/>That's about the only stuff in the public domain as far as I know until this post and any other site that might pick up the piece.Patriothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17364831921954903098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11333084.post-16502052090358620732007-10-17T14:17:00.000-02:302007-10-17T14:17:00.000-02:30I couldn't find any news references to this. Do yo...I couldn't find any news references to this. Do you have any links Myles?stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06192434366533809267noreply@blogger.com