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Thursday, April 05, 2007

Promise Made, Promise Broken


On Wednesday April 4 economics professor, Dr. Wade Locke of Memorial University, presented the findings of a study into the new federal equalization program and it’s financial impacts on Newfoundland and Labrador.

In the study Dr. Locke examined the 3 options currently available to the province under the revised equalization plan:

1. Maintain the Status Quo as set out in the 2005 Atlantic Accord contract;

2. Adopt the new equalization formula with 50% of non-renewable resource revenues excluded but capped at Ontario’s fiscal capacity;

Or

3. Adopt the new equalization formula with 100% of non-renewable resource revenue included, also capped at Ontario’s fiscal capacity.

According to Dr. Locke the best direction for the province to take under the new regime is to remain under the Atlantic Accord contract until about 2009 and then switch to the 50% revenue exclusion option.

The report states that under the 50% exclusion option the province could potentially pick up an additional $5 billion in the next 13 years over and above continuing on its current course under the Atlantic Accord. But the story doesn’t end there.

This improvement in financial capability is apparently why Stephen Harper, Loyola Hearn and others have been saying the province is better off under the new plan, but Dr. Locke's study also shows that this doesn't mean there is no adverse impact to the province.
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He goes on to say that had Stephen Harper and his government actually changed the equalization formula to exclude 100% of non-renewable resource revenues and not included a cap, as the province’s of Nova Scotia, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland and Labrador had expected Ottawa to do based on Harpers previous promises, it could have meant a further $5 billion dollars for Newfoundland and Labrador over the same 13 year period. $5 billion dollars that will not flow to the province under the new plan.

Dr. Locke based his findings on $51 dollar oil and the projected revenues for existing oil and mineral projects already operating in the province. This means there is also a potential that new discoveries and developments, or a higher average oil price, could inflate those numbers beyond the $5 billion estimated on either end of the equation.

Dr. Locke noted that he conducted his study with the intention of clearing the air and cutting through the federal and provincial political rhetoric surrounding the issue. While he was acting strictly as an economist and did not wish to involve himself in the political debate, I on the other hand have no problem charging into the battle.

Dr. Locke’s study shows that the province will indeed be better off under the new equalization plan, than it would have otherwise been, but that was never the issue from a political perspective was it? The issue was whether or not Stephen Harper lived up to his word or not and if not, would that have a negative financial impact on the province. The answer to those questions are clearly No and Yes. No, he didn’t keep his promise and Yes it will have a negative financial impact on Newfoundland and Labrador.

The study shows that while Newfoundland and Labrador may make some gains under the new forumula, it will still be far worse off than if Stephen Harper had done what he had led the people of Canada to believe he was going to do, worse off to the tune of $5 billion dollars or more.

If you are anything like me, wrapping your head around a number like $5 billion is not an easy task, so let me put it in perspective.

For years Canada was, and to some degree still is, involved in a major dispute with the United States over softwood lumber. In fact it's been the biggest and most contentious single trade issue between the two Countries for quite some time. Court cases have been fought, tribunals and panels struck and the government of Canada has essentially fought tooth and nail with its neighbors to the south over what is considered a major wrong doing on their part.

The financial impact of the softwood lumber dispute to Canada was approximately $5 billion dollars. The very same amount identified as the shortfall to Newfoundland and Labrador between what Stephen Harper said he would do and what he actually did. Yet Harper, Hearn and the entire Canadian government simply expect the province to accept this fact without argument.

If $5 billion dollars is worthy of occupying the massive resources of the entire federal government for years in an attempt to secure it for the people of Canada, imagine the impact of denying the same amount to a small and economically challenged province like Newfoundland and Labrador. Imagine what $5 billion dollars could have done to move the province forward and ensure it a stable and bright future.

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

As always Patriot, this Post is a great one, please keep it going!It is interesting that you compare the Softwood Lumber dispute that Canada has with the US, which happens to have a $5 billion value, and it is very important to the whole country, while this $5 billion dispute for Newfoundland and Labrador is dismissed?

How is it that the Upper Churchill Hydroelectric Contract is set in stone and cannot be broken? The contract that Newfoundland and Labrador signed with Quebec is so unconsciousable that it sees Quebec receive more than a billion dollars per year and Newfoundland less than $50 million, barely enough to run the Project, while the Prime Minister of Canada can break his promise to Newfoundland and Labrador? Why the double standard?

Anonymous said...

From today's Regina Leader Post News service:

ANGRY SASK. PREMIER SLAMS HARPER OVER EQUALIZATION

REGINA - Prime Minister Stephen Harper has quickly become one of the most political and divisive prime ministers in Canadian history, an angry Premier Lorne Calvert said Wednesday.

What started out as criticism of a local radio advertising campaign by Regina Conservative MPs suggesting they were keeping their equalization promises to Saskatchewan quickly turned into a Calvert diatribe over Harper running Canada as if he is an American president.

"This is not a United States of America," an angry Saskatchewan premier told reporters Wednesday. "This is a federation of provinces who joined to form a nation ... We have a prime minister - not a president."

Calvert called Harper's budget-day decision to cap Saskatchewan's non-renewable resource revenue - rather than remove it altogether from the equalization formula as the Conservatives promised during the election campaign - a case of giving Saskatchewan's resources money to Quebec for tax cuts and to buy votes.

"How are you supposed to build a nation?" Calvert asked. "This federal government has Balkanized the country through its own political desire to win seats more than any other government in history."

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The premier also suggested his government might have to run its own radio advertising to correct "misinformation" in Regina-area Conservative MPs' ads that insist the federal government has kept its promises to Saskatchewan.

While the provincial government has no current plans for a national advertising campaign against the federal government similar to the one run by Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Danny Williams, Calvert's description of Harper and Saskatchewan's 12 Conservative MPs was no less sharp.

"We have a promise broken in a (federal) budget. We were lied to. And now I (hear) ads that are far from the truth," Calvert said. "If this kind of misinformation is on our airwaves, I am considering returning to the airwaves with some correct information."

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Anonymous said...

Artfull Dodger said....

The problem with this entire issue is the fact that the Conservatives refuse to admit that they went back on their word, which was fairly well illustrated by the results of Dr. Wade Lockes delving into the topic. What makes matters even worse, is that they are going on the record saying that they delivered exactly what they promised.

If Harper had been honest and explained for whatever reason/rationale that he could not deliver, then he should have informed the parties involved of his intentions and stood by his decision, at least he would clear himself of being branded a liar.

As I stated in an earlir post, I wish Willims, Calvert and McDonald had pooled their resources and presented a print and electronic ads stating their case instead going off madly in all directions.

I believe the facts need to be stated in unison (Nfld & Lab, Sask, Nova Scotia), clearly and without rhetoric, they would have had more impact across the country in that manner in my very humble opinion!

Anonymous said...

Another Promise Made, Promise Broken.

Cash-rich companies are trolling for assets across Canada.

The latest target? Gateway Casinos Income Fund, which operates three casinos in Greater Vancouver, four in the Okanagan and two in Edmonton will likely be the latest in a string of takeovers.

Stock markets on both sides of the Canada-U.S. border are swimming in them, as corporate goliaths bulk up, while cash-rich private equity funds troll for assets.

There have been plenty of deals and that's certain to continue, with the unit values of many trusts mired in the basement following federal Finance Minister Jim Flaherty's decision on income trusts last fall.

With their unit values crushed and their access to capital to fund growth tenuous, watch for more of them to be gobbled up by foreign investors.

Anonymous said...

Oh come on!!

Even after Glorious Leader has been proven to be wrong and have no clue about anything, you all still can't accept that NL is not being screwed after all.

Come on...admit it.......come on!

I know you can do it!!

Anonymous said...

From the Globe and Mail

With his glib tongue and fast temper, Danny Williams has never been known for his diplomacy. But the Newfoundland and Labrador Premier has run amok over the past two weeks with his inflammatory complaints about how much his province will receive in transfer payments in the recent federal budget. Newfoundland has been "shafted," he declared.
. . .
Mr. Williams has long been anxious to obtain the best deal for his province in everything. But now he has become careless, because Canadians in other provinces are figuring out just how much he is pocketing. They should stand with Mr. Harper in his fight.
From the Windsor Star:

Governments at all levels and of all stripes already use tax dollars to fund advertising for policies that are nothing more than thinly disguised partisan ads. Spending even more tax dollars on advertising in a dispute that could better be waged with press releases and opinion articles in newspapers represents an extravagance governments in these lean times can ill afford.

If Williams and Harper can't start acting like adults, voters should think about cutting off their allowance.
From the Edmonton Journal

Of course, none of the substance of this is remarkable. Williams is indeed playing fast and loose with the facts on equalization, and the Conservatives' recent advertising assaults on the Liberals are no different from salvos fired in the other direction during past elections.
From the National Post

If Danny Williams, the Newfoundland and Labrador Premier, were trailing in the polls, his latest hysterical attacks on Prime Minister Stephen Harper could be explained away as mere electioneering. But his provincial Conservatives are so popular -- polls measure his support as being as high as 70% -- that their re-election is all but assured in this fall's elections. So there must be some other reason for his demagogic rantings and threats to deliver Mr. Harper "a big goose egg" of seats in Newfoundland in the next federal campaign. We suspect his theatrical fury is cover for his own recent disastrous mismanagement of his province's energy industry.
. . .
At his best, Mr. Williams is a charmer and a visionary. He seems genuinely committed to getting his province off the federal dole -- eventually. But at his worst -- such as when he is storming out of premiers' conferences and flying home to take down the Canadian flag from Newfoundland's House of Assembly --Mr. Williams' is a juvenile showman whose antics serve to cast his province as Canada's pouting brat. Newfoundland and Labrador deserves better.
It looks like Premier Williams' very public campaign against Canada's New Government has generated little sympathy for this province nationally. In fact, in many corners it's a wash at best.

LIKE I SAID :
THE PREMIER'S AN IDIOT.

Anonymous said...

The ISSUE, for those with comprehension problems (specifically adressing the two nobs preceding me) is.....steve harper did NOT deliver on his promise....he then lied...PROMISE MADE, PROMISE BROKEN!!!!

Anonymous said...

The Issue, for those who are stupid Newfies, is that the Premier is making up stuff as he goes along and all the little Newfie sheep just skip merrily behind him!!

PROMISE MADE, PROMISE KEPT, BETTER DEAL!

Anonymous said...

It does seem like Mr. Williams made a big fuss over nothing.

Just a casual observation from a fellow Newfoundlander.

I just wish he would tone it down a bit before he really does some harm to us.

Anonymous said...

As always ,Patriot ,a great article showing the truth of the canadain governement,and the un-just act's that it has committed on the people of this Province.
As I have stated many time's in your forum,"Prime Minister Danny Williams, "must take the information that is avaible to him and share it with the rest of the federation.You cannot sit at your desk ,and blame a cliptomaniac for stealing something that is not his.I firmly believe that Mr Harper does see canada as a federation of nations.He has stated, that he agree's with the statement made by the Liberial Party of Canada ,that canada is not a "Nation",that it is actually a "Federation" of nations that make the country.So I ask this to you .
Why are we so surprised that Mr Harper ,coming from Alberta, is not going to give a "RAT'S ASS" about a "Strong and Prosperouse",Newfoundland ,and Labrador.When all thruths are told ,Alberta has benefited the most from Mr Harper's Term in Office and continues to grab what he can.He takes the familys from there homes .He use's the chair of the PMO's Office to keep Green House Gas's Flowing ,so Alberta doesn't have to pay a Carbon Tax ,and he buy's Votes with Tax Payer money.
And ,we as Newfoundlander's and Labradorian's still refuse to see the facts.I,at this time would like to point your reader's to an article from "Greg Locke".
"In any “revolution” its not the lawyers and accountants waving spreadsheets and legal precedents that lead the charge up the hill to freedom and self determination. No, the banner is raised by those with passion and heart and the resolve to have a voice in how their country is run. "
It is time for us as a people ,to relise that canada does not work,and that the time to leave is upon us.Only when the last family has left,and the last morsil of food has been stolen from our mouths will we relise what we have done to our childrens future,and thier hope for something better.If those that wish to remain canadain love that right so much ,then by all means ,run to the arms of canada. But,befor you go, relise , a man is jugded in his life-time by his actions .Not by what he has said.
All you have to do ,Patriot, is look at some of the commnets made here in your forum by some of our fellow canadains .Am I ,as a Newfoundlander , suppose to think as an educated person ,with a report from a Recognised University that Newfoundland and Labrador has not been given the shaft.
But ,still persistant remarks from the lobbyists,on your Blog saying how we are better off.This is not 1949 my friends ,and I relise now that we will only starve if we stay in confederation.Under the thumb of the Ottawa.

AS Always,Lost-In-Excile ( with Greg Locke) :)

Anonymous said...

The Issue, for those who are stupid Newfies, is that the Premier is making up stuff as he goes along and all the little Newfie sheep just skip merrily behind him!!

PROMISE MADE, PROMISE KEPT, BETTER DEAL!

April 05, 2007 3:28 PM

To "MR Ontario,"

Mr. Sorenson,if the deal is so good ,why doesn't Steven Harper simply say "Good Enough", you want the lesser of the two Deals ,go ahead have it.C'mon, please use a little common sence with all that Air In your "THICK CANADIAN HEAD".It's the way you use the word newfie bud,that shows the people of Newfoundland and labrador ,who the real "N@$$#%" are right.
Scum like you has to hide under a rock ,not behind a Blog.But, its nice of you too show my fellow Newfoundlanders and Labradorians ,excactly how you people think in canada.I live with your "Sickness" everyday.
Go Educate your filthy mind ,racist!!1

Anonymous said...

Whatever.

Anonymous said...

Yes, indeed, your site has been sabotaged by that low-down piece of crap/virus from Ontario. He likes to refer to Newfoundlanders and Labradorians as Sheep, but I think he is lower than a Rat. After reading that creep's blog, I have some sympathy for what our politicians have had to endure for the past 58 years, they have always been facing down the devil. We got a dose of some of them who report to the National Newspapers, but this Virus is worst than any of them.

Anonymous said...

Anti-seal hunt seafood boycott called 'phoney'
CBC News
A U.S.-based consumer group is questioning what it calls a "phoney" Canadian seafood boycott being organized by an animal rights group opposed to the East Coast seal hunt.
"The public is being fooled. The boycott is phoney. It is not as advertised," said David Martosko, research director for the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Consumer Freedom.

The centre, which lobbies for the food industry, contacted about a third of the nearly 300 companies listed as participating in the boycott organized by the Humane Society of the United States.


Martosko said 62 per cent of the companies contacted were unaware they had been listed as cancelling purchases of Canadian seafood to push for the annual seal hunt off Newfoundland, Quebec and the Maritimes to be banned.

The group also found more than 45 per cent of the restaurants on the society's list have never served Canadian products.
At least one prominent chef in New York City was surprised to hear his restaurant was on the list prepared by the Humane Society of the United States.

"If you come to my restaurant right now, I have scallops from Digby, halibut from up north, northern Canada, I do have oysters, [and] P.E.I. mussels," said David Pasternack, chef at Esca in Manhattan.

Pasternack said nobody asked him to boycott Canadian seafood.

"I don't know who the Humane Society is, so I wouldn't really know who did it or what," he said.

Anonymous said...

canadain Scum,I look forward to spitting on the grave of your country when it comes to an end .I hope that it is sooner then later.

Anonymous said...

Nice.

Anonymous said...

Mr S ,instead of just saying "nice" ,why not answer a simple question.If the people of Newfoundland and Labroador are so stupid as you clain they are,why wouldn't the Prime Minister of canada ,the one who said that he supports the fact that Canada is a "Federation."Why would he not just say "OK,you stupid Bastards " you want the lesser of the two then here you go have it.

I find it absolutley amazing that someone from Onatrio,someone that has nothing but a better lifestyle to maintain wouldn't agree with a Prime Minister that has only something to gain by oppressing a nation of people.
But ,you persist in the name calling because the people that are apart of your country stand-up for thier rights by simply tellng the truth.Then you wonder why people like me ,that have lived amonsgt you feel that this thing called canada is simply not worth keeping alive.
"NO",I'm not bordering on the talk of separation .I am stating the fact that I am a nationalist,republican,or separatist .I simply do not believe that Newfoundland and Labrador belong in Confederation with Provinces like Ontario or Quebec.And ,that we as a nation would be far better off ,having a economic union with the United States.
I simply belive that your country can talk the talk ,but you "CANNOT" walk the walk.To me you have commited more crimes agaisnt your fellow citizens ,then any American Governemnt has ever comitted.
But,Mr S,if your country is so great and so "Just" why do you feel that you have to pass Laws in the Governement to keep a Province in Line.Why the need for things like the Clarity Act.

All I'm stating is that if your country is so great why does it continue to allow such behavior like the Churchfalls scenario to continue ,when the facts speak louder then words.
You preach Tolerance and justice thru out the world but you cannot grant that same priviliage to the citizens of your country.And,after I watch the death of my culture Im supposed to belive that,Multi-Cultralisam work's,were is mine??

"It is the fault of NL politicians of course, all the way back to Smallwood, who pit NL against the rest of Canada every chance they get."

It is simple ,the country that is called canada cannot live in Multi-Cultrusiam,and that if the world relise's this ,then the property value of ontario is going to fall thru the floor.Plain and Simple.You are the ones that have a trade deficiet with Newfoundland and labrador,not the other way around.

Why am I such a strong nationalist Mr S, becuase like 1949 I simply believe that if my family doesn't do something about leaving your country then we will simply cease to be.

"Danny is up for re-election this year and, following in the footsteps of Fidel, he’s again started external attackes to take the focus away from his abysmal record in NL."

"Propagabda"

I'm supposed to belive garbage like this when i can easliy find out that Mr Williams has 70% percent of the popular vote.

You see Mr S,Newfoundlanders and Labradorians are not liar's ,they do not make-up story's.They simply tell the truth.And ,when the truth is told at the end of the day ,they relise that thier fellow canadains are very,very,differant people from the rest of canada.Because I can say with an open heart that I do not believe that thease people are not capable of horrible acts as are thier fellow canadins ,and for me ,thats proof enough to say that we are differant.And ,that we do not belong.Plain and simple.

As Always,Lost-In-Excile!!!

PS,Please feel free to critise the gramer "B'ye"

Anonymous said...

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK PREMIER LORNE CALVERT OF SASKATCHEWAN FOR TAKING THE STAND THAT HE HAS TAKEN. HE SAID THAT PREMIER HARPER HAS BALKANIZED CANADA TO WIN SEATS IN QUEBEC.

NOW HOW DESPARATE IS THIS PRIME MINISTER TO BALKANIZE OUR COUNTRY. GOOD GRIEF IS THAT THE LEGACY HE WANTS TO BE REMEMBERED AS BESTOWING UPON CANADA? IT IS A SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS INDEED. BUT THANKS PREMIER CALVERT FOR STATING IT AS IT IS!

SEE THE STORY BELOW BY TIM COOK OF CANADIAN PRESS.




QUOTE

Sask. premier says Harper has 'balkanized' country to win seats in Quebec

Tim Cook, Canadian Press
Published: Thursday, April 05, 2007
REGINA (CP) - Prime Minister Stephen Harper's drive to win seats in certain parts of the country has left Canada more divided than it ever has been in recent history, Saskatchewan Premier Lorne Calvert said Wednesday.
Calvert was responding at the legislature to ads Conservative MPs have begun running in Saskatchewan saying the province was a big winner in last month's budget.
The comment was part of a rant in which the normally measured measured Calvert criticized Harper for everything from buying votes in Quebec with Saskatchewan resource money to failing to hold a first minister's meeting with premiers.
It only stopped when the NDP premier's wife, Betty, signalled at him from the back of the room to cool it.
"We've not built fairness in Canada," Calvert told reporters.
"This federal government has, I think, more balkanized the country through its own political desire to win seats than any other government in recent history.
"We've never had a first minister's meeting since this prime minister occurred. He invited us all for supper one night. He calls that a meeting, I don't."
Calvert then suggested Harper was trying to Americanize Canada by not fostering the country's federation.
"This is not a United States of America. This is a federation of provinces which joined to form a nation, each with very distinct and important constitutional rights and responsibilities," Calvert continued.
"We have a prime minister, not a president. We have a House of Commons that should be reflecting the regions."
Calvert is angry with the federal Conservatives over what he says is a broken promise.
During the last election, the Conservatives pledged to remove non-renewable resource revenues from the way equalization payments to the provinces are calculated.
It's a change that would mean $800 million for oil-rich Saskatchewan, according to provincial calculations.
In last month's budget, the Conservatives allowed the provinces the option of removing all natural resource revenues from equalization, but put a cap on the program so that no recipient province will end up with a fiscal capacity greater than a province which doesn't receive equalization.
The revamped formula means Saskatchewan will get $226 million in equalization this year and nothing next year, Calvert contends.
Calvert said he is considering an ad campaign of his own that would counter the Conservative ads.
He said he thinks the ads would work best if run inside the province, but hasn't ruled out taking the campaign national like Newfoundland did over the same issue.

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Anonymous said...

A MISTAKE- I SHOULD HAVE ENDED WITH UNQUOTE

Anonymous said...

Who's Mr. S?

Anonymous said...

Mr. Silly Willy, the Sheep Slayer, a crazy Ontarian blogger, read his blog to see for yourself, who wants to slay every Newfoundlander and Labradorian, so his province can have what is left of the of the resources remaining in Newfoundland and Labrador , that Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba and Ottawa haven't already been able to get I their hands on to this point. Now that we are making noises that the Lower Churchill Hydroelectric Energy Project must be done for Labrador's benefit to create industry there, this has raised his ire and made this nut crazier.

Anonymous said...

I just read the Globe and Mail. I will call it the Mop and Slop, a tabloid with an anti-bias towards Newfoundland and Labrador sic'ed on us by the Federal Government.

Front Page story: QUOTE Adman dine on foie gras and champagne in Belize/Sponsorship Scandal

Jean Lafleur, former adman, enjoyed truffles, imported foie gras, champagne and $100 (U.S.) bottles of wine when living the high life in his Central American tropical idyll. UNQUOTE

(Oh it sends a pain through my heart, the torture to produce the 'Foie gras."


Foie gras: Those poor ducks and geese held captive for months, being forced fed the equivalent of 28 pounds of pasta per day, sometimes their stomachs get torn from the funnels being forced down their throats twice a day and they are being penned up in a cage no bigger than the space their bodies occupy.

You don't see Mr. Silly Willy writing about these sorts of things. Of course, because that is part of HIS CULTURE. The culture of Extravagant Food and Entitlement which is Alive and Well in Central Canada, where they feed off the periphery. That is an example of Balkanization for you, the Centre feeding off the Periphery. Ontario feeding off Newfoundland and Labrador's resources. And Mr. Adman dining off the monies contributed to Canada by the taxpayers and resources pilfered from Newfoundland and Labrador.

Anonymous said...

http://www.thiscanada.com/2007/02/21/sheep/

Mr. Sorenson,I won't use his real name is a retired I.T Tech from South-Western Ontario.Thats lives in a quite ontario commnuity and does re-search for the Conserveative party of canada.He is what we call in the industry a "Hired Information Gun"
What thease people do is actually "Hack" for information on the internet to "DIg-Up" information on people in regards to Identity ,past Political activity and involvement with the federal Goverment.He has a very handsome resume ,and was recruited ,by the PC party to ,AH HUM,get he Picture.

I myself have been watching this trend "Patriot" for quite sometime now.Some referance matrial to back-up what i'm saying ,if you could please ,Sir.

The atricle in the National Post by Jorge Barrera ,and the re-cent article by a Toronto Sun columist Ezra Lvant.

The conservative party of Canada relise's that information and the way that it is shown in Canada by what they call the liberail left is very dangerouse to thier abilty to remain in office.
I believe that we all have access to the latest media release done in Ottawa by the consevative party were they limited the use of cameras in the news room .

The conservative party of Canada is relising one thing ,that "the Pen is truely stonger then the sword."
So they watch people lke Mr Higgens ,who they feel are an actual threat to the security of Canada,and its Border's.So they do what they can to try and shut them-up.But, its not just the separtist movement In Newfoundland and Labraor that they are worried about .They also watch the separtist in Quebec,Alberta,Britsih Columbia and now Newfoundland and Labrador.

This is the same "SCUM" that drove Sue Kelland-Dyer underground. Mr S ,would like to say that I'm a Liberial or an NDP supporter,in in Fact I'm a strong Nationalist.
Mr Higgens is a fellow Newfoundlander and Labradorian.My servive is to the people of that province.
Mr S, my father lost his lifestyle,his trade,and his culture to "Nazi SCUM in Ottawa."
The only thing that he recieved was the money that paid for my education from U of W.Mr S,my reusme ,Sir,is just as handsome.And ,above all ,my family comes first.

All I'm saying is this "STAY AWAY OR THAT SUSE BOX YOU RUN ,WON'T HELP YOU,MR NOVELL"

Thank-you Mr Higgens for the use of your Blog ,Sir.

Mr Lost-In-Excile,
A+,MCSE,GIAC,CISSIP
PS, As I write this Mr Higgens ,Mr S, has launched what we call a stack-over agaisnt a node that I took over from an ISP right beside his home .OH Boy ,some people "SPOOFFFFFFFFFFFF"lol.

Anonymous said...

http://www.thiscanada.com/2007/02/21/sheep/

Mr. Sorenson,I won't use his real name is a retired I.T Tech from South-Western Ontario.Thats lives in a quite ontario commnuity and does re-search for the Conserveative party of canada.He is what we call in the industry a "Hired Information Gun"
What thease people do is actually "Hack" for information on the internet to "DIg-Up" information on people in regards to Identity ,past Political activity and involvement with the federal Goverment.He has a very handsome resume ,and was recruited ,by the PC party to ,AH HUM,get he Picture.

I myself have been watching this trend "Patriot" for quite sometime now.Some referance matrial to back-up what i'm saying ,if you could please ,Sir.

The atricle in the National Post by Jorge Barrera ,and the re-cent article by a Toronto Sun columist Ezra Lvant.

The conservative party of Canada relise's that information and the way that it is shown in Canada by what they call the liberail left is very dangerouse to thier abilty to remain in office.
I believe that we all have access to the latest media release done in Ottawa by the consevative party were they limited the use of cameras in the news room .

The conservative party of Canada is relising one thing ,that "the Pen is truely stonger then the sword."
So they watch people lke Mr Higgens ,who they feel are an actual threat to the security of Canada,and its Border's.So they do what they can to try and shut them-up.But, its not just the separtist movement In Newfoundland and Labraor that they are worried about .They also watch the separtist in Quebec,Alberta,Britsih Columbia and now Newfoundland and Labrador.

This is the same "SCUM" that drove Sue Kelland-Dyer underground. Mr S ,would like to say that I'm a Liberial or an NDP supporter,in in Fact I'm a strong Nationalist.
Mr Higgens is a fellow Newfoundlander and Labradorian.My servive is to the people of that province.
Mr S, my father lost his lifestyle,his trade,and his culture to "Nazi SCUM in Ottawa."
The only thing that he recieved was the money that paid for my education from U of W.Mr S,my reusme ,Sir,is just as handsome.And ,above all ,my family comes first.

All I'm saying is this "STAY AWAY OR THAT SUSE BOX YOU RUN ,WON'T HELP YOU,MR NOVELL"

Thank-you Mr Higgens for the use of your Blog ,Sir.

Mr Lost-In-Excile,
A+,MCSE,GIAC,CISSIP
PS, As I write this Mr Higgens ,Mr S, has launched what we call a stack-over agaisnt a node that I took over from an ISP right beside his home .OH Boy ,some people "SPOOFFFFFFFFFFFF"lol.

Anonymous said...

To: LOST IN EXILE

I am further shocked that, not only Prime Minister Paul Martin engaged the Globe and Mail and its crony writers to pulverize this poor in infrastructure, but rich and giving in resources province into oblivion BUT now we learn through this site, and you, LOST IN EXILE, that this virus Mr. S which descended on us a couple of months ago, with such vengeance was sic'ed upon up and orchestrated by the Conservative Party, under the dictatorship of this Prime Minister. What a non-benevolent society, is this Canada, that the province and the people of Newfoundland and Labrador find itself in-lawed with?

LOST IN EXILE, I am not sure whether or not you are aware of the Open Line shows in Newfoundland and Labrador, but they attract up to 200,000 listeners per day, and if you would be so kind to impart your knowledge through those shows, I am sure our fellow Newfoundlanders and Labradorians would be forever grateful? Also while this blog site is a wonderful place to share our thoughts, ideas and knowledge, the Open Line Shows would reach a far greater number of people? I am not trying to undermine you Patriot, but this site can be a conduit through which we can formulate our thoughts and take them further. I hope also you can get your readership up to 200,000.

Up until five or six years ago, every one of us, Newfoundlanders and Labradorians, I am sure, thought, instead of living in a non-benevolent Canadian society that we were living in the best society in the world. How we can have the wool pulled over our eyes? I guess we should have been always been aware of such a thing as wolves in sheeps' clothing.

I, for one, never knew that we were living under such a poisonous government system as Ottawa/Canada conducts. I cannot believe that they took our resources, used them to create economies in other parts of Canada, used up a Kyoto credits and sent us the pollution with the West to East weather systems that drop the Acid Rain on our shores; and,if that wasn't enough, then tried to destroy us by taking our benevolent name through the use of the Globe and Mail Tabloid. Shame on You Ottawa/Canada and Globe and Mail.

Anonymous said...

Who, in Newfoundland and Labrador, was aware of the protective armour of the Canadian Parliamentary System and who knew that there were so many layers of protection to be penetrated before you could get an inkling as to how it worked? I never knew that Ottawa had so many layers of protections with many people being paid to man those fortresses. It has all been coming into my view plain over the past five or six years though, since I took some interest in what has been going on around me, that's when I started to ask myself questions. Some of the questions I asked myself were, with so many natural resources, why did the province of Newfoundland and Labrador, after 58 years in the Canadian Federation still continue to flounder with no appreciable economies? While Nova Scotia with so few resources is doing so much better! Why did the province of Newfoundland and Labrador have very few Federal Regional Offices, while the other Atlantic provinces have so many? Why did we have such a poor transportation system? Plus many others, these are a few examples! But others out there are breaking these systems down by cracking their codes, and if one tunes his/her ear to what is being said by people, who have made it their lives work to break down the systems for us , you will get enough knowledge to figure out what has gone one.


Five or six years ago I started to crave answers to things unknown to me; and at that point I started to listen to the voices of the public who were disseminating the information for us, people such as Ira Basen who told us of the Spin Cycle, Spun by Spin Doctors; on how people like politicians spin the answers for any questions that they were presented with, that is if a particular spin is needed to be placed on the answer. I never knew that there was such a system, how gullible? And I never knew that our politicians would spin an answer to mislead their electorate, in this case our Newfoundland and Labrador politicians leading Newfoundlanders and Labradorians' astray. Again how gullible? Don't blame me for being gullible, I came from a moral family who placed a lot of emphasis on honesty, and believed in the Ten Commandments. My family believed that nobody would do such a thing to you as spin falsehoods. I was no different than any of my ascendants. I believed that our politicians were so BENIGN that they would never do anything to bend the ears of their people, who they knew were so trusting of them. Because that is the way Newfoundlanders and Labradorians were and mostly still are, I don't know now how long it is going to take to break our people of that wonderful habit, but for us Newfoundlanders and Labradorians to compete in this crooked and corrupt country, Canada, that we find ourselves aligned with, I guess that is the only thing we can do, although, it seems so terrible that we have to teach our people such immorals. Were my beliefs in Canada and how it operated ever wrong?

I didn't realize that the BENIGN Canadian Parliamentary System, as I THOUGHT, had all the protective barriers built into it, to safe guard the jobs of the elected politicians, to make sure any of its MPs who went down in defeat, at the hands of the electorate, because he/she was protecting the Mother Government by toeing the party line, had the Plum Patronage Positions awaiting their demise. So those plum positions kept those Politicians in a state of 'ever bliss' because they knew the system was set up to protect them, so go ahead protect the Central Government and forget who elected you. The "Me Syndrome" is at its worst under the Government systems, because with this "Me Syndrome" it is not the politician's Personal Family that is being affected, they are financially protected, but it is the rejection of a whole region of families, those under the jurisdiction of the particular politician, who would be in question in the province. Tell me please how many Newfoundlanders and Labradorians know how the Canadian Parliamentary system works? I doubt many and I also doubt that many ordinary Canadians know either!