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Thursday, April 19, 2007

Russia to Fund Fixed Link

Earlier this week Bloomberg reported that Russia is planning to build the world’s longest tunnel across the Bering Strait to Alaska. According to the report which was brought to my attention by a strong supporter of Newfoundland and Labrador issues (and no he’s not from the province) the tunnel will form part of a massive corridor intended to supply the U.S. with oil, natural gas and electricity from Siberia.

The tunnel will cost an estimated $10 to $12 billion dollars and will form part of a 6,000 kilometer , $60 billion dollar, rail transport corridor from Siberia to Alaska, through Canada and into the U.S. heartland. Russian officials hope to formally present the plan to U.S. and Canadian governments next week.

The undersea tunnel portion of the project will be constructed under some of the most inhospitable waters in the world and contain a high-speed railway, pipelines, power lines and fiber-optic cables.

The project envisions building high-voltage power lines inside the tunnel to supply the new rail links and also for export to North America. In addition to the ability to move resources, “The transit (people) link is that string on which all our industrial cluster projects could hang,'' a spokesman said. It is believed this corridor will go far in resolving the economic woes of Siberia, a land that has been cut off from much of the world throughout its existence.

Does any of this sound the least bit familiar anyone? Well if it doesn’t it sure should.

For decades people in Newfoundland, also an isolated land with massive untapped resource potential, have lobbied for a tunnel or some other form of fixed link between the island portion of the province and mainland Canada. For just as long, the idea has been brushed aside as unnecessary, unfeasible or simply laughable. Despite this the government of Canada will soon be deciding whether or not to work with Russia and the U.S. to build a much longer, more expensive and more environmentally challenging link between those two nations.

Boy it sure would be nice if government would stop to consider linking all Canada’s province’s before getting involved in international links on this scale.

The distance from Newfoundland to Labrador, on the mainland, is far shorter than the proposed tunnel envisioned in the Russian venture, far less expensive to build and just like Siberia, the province is rich in electrical energy, oil, gas and minerals. It also has the economic woes that come with isolation, including great difficulty getting the province’s gas and abundant electrical energy to market.

Some may say that the Russian venture is different because it won’t cost Canada anything to develop, after all the Russians intend to pay for it. They’d be wrong.

Indeed there is no intention to ask Canada for funding but it’s clear that if Russia is willing to fund such a massive project to build an oil/gas and electricity corridor to markets in the U.S. then they expect a solid return on that investment. Why then can’t the Canadian government see the financial potential of linking resource rich Newfoundland to the rest of the Country and how much revenue will be lost because they refuse to do it?

A fully costed plan for a Newfoundland and Labrador fixed link, very similar to the Russian one, has already been developed by local engineer, Tom Kierans.

Mr. Kierans’, who helped design the Upper Churchill power plant, has been trying in vain to promote this project for years. His pleas have fallen on deaf ears. Like the Russian plan, the Kierans’ design also includes a rail line, oil/gas pipelines and electrical distribution capability that would power the transportation link and deliver power to market. Go figure.

Now in his 90’s its doubtful Mr. Kierans will be able to continue tilting against this particular windmill for too many more years. It’s a shame.

After decades of laughing off the so called “stupid idea” of a fixed link inside Canada I wonder what the reaction will be when this new Russian venture is tabled next week. Somehow I expect the proponents of the plan won’t get quite the same condescending reaction out of Ottawa as Newfoundlanders and Labradorians have received.

I also suspect that an agreement, quietly reached in the House of Commons a couple of weeks ago, to “form a committee to examine the potential for a Newfoundland and Labrador tunnel” was nothing more than a pre-emptive attempt by Ottawa to soften the province’s position for when the Russian plan is formally presented.

I guess the more things change the more they stay the same.

41 comments:

Anonymous said...

Does the word QUEBEC pose ramifications and factor into the reason why Ottawa would rather enter into a Russian project over one that would benefit Newfoundland and Labrador?

Anonymous said...

You can bet your ass it does.

If it wasn't for geography that forces us to move our electricity through Quebec you can bet there wouldn't be this much opposition to linking up the island.

Ottawa is hoping we send all the power through Quebec so that the province can get some big benefits, instead of linking to the island, letting us use the power to build an economomy or even running it by cable to NS and on to the US.

Quebec has to be in the plan or we can forget anyone in Ottawa even looking at anything in this province.

The Quebec government still claims they own much of Labrador and they want to make sure that the two parts of the province are not linked in any way because right now they are the only ones physically connected to Labrador. Think about that.

Anonymous said...

Another Greqat Article Patriot,

To anon of April 19, 2007 12:41 PM,you can bet your ass that your absoltuly "RIGHT" about that .If Quebec doesn't or can't Gain from it ,then fine .Its a no fly.

The way that they view ,and have viewed Newfoundland and Labrador is that the only Problem they have with Newfoundland and labrador ,is that it is "Filled" with Newfoundlander's and labradorian's.
Thease people should not benefit from Confederation .If they cannot get us "OUT" then they plan to Breed us out.

Then it all goes to Quebec so they can or will re-main Canadan.It people can't see that ,stop ,pause,and breath .Now look around at the last 58 years .Its time for us too wake up to what we have aligned oueselves with.Genocide comes in many forms.Guess what form Canada wishes to use.

WJM said...

For decades people in Newfoundland, also an isolated land with massive untapped resource potential

What is the "massive untapped resource potential" of Newfoundland?

Anonymous said...

How about untapped potential oil reserves, gas reserves and minerals?

And WJM, before you go off with saying "the oil and gas belongs to Canada, not NL" we all know the shitty way Ottawa looks at oil on land differently than offshore oil so don't bother with that bull shit.

Anonymous said...

To the previous anon,

exactly. Just becuase Ottawa screws us by not letting us control the resources we brought into confederation doesn't make them any less ours morally at least.

It's just another example of how we are being screwed over in this province.

You'd also think WJM would speak out for the power resources of Labrador to be used there and in the other parts of his own province (Newfoundland) rather than used for the primary benefit of Quebec but as usual he has spent so long in Ottawa breathing in the stale are of that hell hole that he's completely turned on his own people.

Anonymous said...

The following is from a news article on April 2nd. It clearly shows what this province is up against in Canada.

"Ontario‘s energy minister says it‘s a complicated but necessary step that Quebec and the federal government support the Lower Churchill hydroelectric project.

"Dwight Duncan...said his province won‘t agree to buy power from the multibillion-dollar project until that challenge is met."

Can you imagine. This Ontario a$$hole doesn't even consider whether or not NL might do the project themselves and ship by another route other than Quebec. Regardless, if Ottawa and Quebec don't get their pound of flesh from this Ontario doesn't want to be involved and wont even buy the power.

It's a great CUNTry we all live in folks.

Once again they do their best to screw us over. To hell with them, go through the Atlantic route and sell it to the States. if one SOB in Canada comes looking for enough power to run a coffee pot tell them to F off!

Anonymous said...

Just becuase Ottawa screws us by not letting us control the resources we brought into confederation doesn't make them any less ours morally at least.

Morals ,Morals ,you put those words together like they actually make sence.When in the name of God does Ottawa or when has Ottawa ever shown us anything that is morally right.

Now your just being an ignorant ,"Slimey Canadain Bacon Wrapped Turd"
Dont bring the words Ottawa and morals togther.

WJM said...

How about untapped potential oil reserves, gas reserves and minerals?

What minerals?

Given the supposed urgency of keeping resources in the province, on the Enver Hoxha Albanian model of economic development, what is a tunnel required for for oil and gas?

Why would you ever want to ship them out?

And WJM, before you go off with saying "the oil and gas belongs to Canada, not NL" we all know the shitty way Ottawa looks at oil on land differently than offshore oil so don't bother with that bull shit.

It's not the way "Ottawa" does, it's the way the Constitution does, as the Newfoundland courts themselves decided.

In any event, the point is moot now: the province has the sole and exclusive right to collect the royalties on those resources.

WJM said...

exactly. Just becuase Ottawa screws us by not letting us control the resources we brought into confederation doesn't make them any less ours morally at least.

Which resources doesn't Ottawa "let us" control?

You'd also think WJM would speak out for the power resources of Labrador to be used there and in the other parts of his own province (Newfoundland) rather than used for the primary benefit of Quebec

Why should the power go to Newfoundland, if it is more expensive, and generates less revenue for the province, than another route?

If the power is transmitted to Newfoundland, though, there goes every industrial location advantage Labrador has. With access to Labrador's power, ice-free ports in southern Newfoundland, and not Labrador, will be better placed to use the power industrially, if there are customers. So Newfoundland would get both the revenues and the spinoff industrial activity.

Labrador would get a boom-bust cycle, the environmental consequences, and the privelege of watching another Labrador resource going south to Newfoundland.

Nice deal.

For Newfoundland.

but as usual he has spent so long in Ottawa breathing in the stale are of that hell hole that he's completely turned on his own people.

Newfoundlanders aren't "my own people". I'm not a Newfoundlander, so I haven't "turned" on anyone, let alone completely.

WJM said...

To hell with them, go through the Atlantic route and sell it to the States.

What does the "Atlantic route" do to the consumer-end cost of a kwh of Labrador power?

Is it worth the spite to bury hundreds of millions, if not billions, worth of economic rent in the bottom of the Gulf of St. Lawrence, and in transmission fees payable to New Brunswick?

Anonymous said...

Quebec apparently refused a Coast Guard Helicopter to assist in the situation presented by the Ice Pack that surrounds the province Northeast Coast. I heard that on Radio today. Is it true? Doesn't Canada pay Quebec for the Coast Guard surveillance costs?

Anonymous said...

Apparently there have been a few items that have slipped through the Canada Food Guide that could be questionable. And yes the Canadian Food Guide is published from the Heavens Above, Upper Canada!

You can find corruption everywhere, if you mind to look. I

Anonymous said...

Ever stop to consider that the rest of Canada doesn't want a "fixed link" to NL??

Why then....all kinds of Newfies could get off the island.

That would be bad..very, very bad.

Anonymous said...

No" Because the way things are with the status quo/no link, you from Central Canada have been able to steal the resources for 58 years and get away with it. With the Fix Link whether you want us or not, we don't give two hoots, we will have control over our resources and you and your economies will be left out in the cold. I hear you wailing now through your childing rants.

Anonymous said...

With regard to the Weather Office in Gander. Three years prior the Weather Office in Gander was removed after 60 years of being there. I believe the staff that existed there at the time of its removal was around 50 personnel, and I do believe they returned only 17 personnel to man the station.

Anonymous said...

And they still don't know how to forecast accurate weather.

Anonymous said...

How many Newfies does it take to run a weather office..........

Anonymous said...

They couldn't forecast it right from Nova Scotia, we know that to be a fact. We had several storms that caused trouble that were not even predicted to be on the horizon.

WJM said...

They couldn't forecast it right from Nova Scotia, we know that to be a fact.

How do "we" "know that to be a fact"?

Do you have comparative stats on the accuracy of the forecast out of Gander (old and new) and out of Halifax in between?

Anonymous said...

WJM I am answering the of Anon`of April 20, 2007 8:09 PM and I really think it is you WJM.

The statement made was: QUOTE And they still don't know how to forecast accurate weather. UNQUOTE


The Anon is speaking of the Gander Weather Office. In my last post I gave the person the facts that there were several storms which occured in the province of Newfoundland and Labrador that were never forecasted by Halifax but hit this province anyway and caused misery to people. So that is my comparison.

WJM: Are you posting under WJM and Anon? I susupect that you are because the childishness that is creeping into this site in question form under the alias of Anon appears to be too closely associated with the type of DNA in the rest of your writings under the alias of WJM.

I think there is only one OPPOSITION poster on this blog who posts under the alias of WJM and Anon. You could very well be posting from two different computers and two different locations, but I really think that the questions are from the same person. And the questions I might add are too silly to even answer!

Anonymous said...

Yet, you continue to answer them!

Anyway.........the weather forecasting from NS was no better or worse than it is from Gander.

We didn't need Gander opened up again....it's a waste of money to keep a few Newf's happy.

Anonymous said...

Very true....except they still aren't happy. Go figure.

Anonymous said...

We didn't need Gander closed in the first place. But Nova Scotia has a big mouth and greediness about it. The weather station which existed in Gander for 60 years was promised to Nova Scotia because Nova Scotia politicians lobbied for it; so therefore, it was taken from the Gander area. That is how all of our Federal jobs disappeared out of this province.

Nova Scotia has more than its fair share of Federal Regional offices and high paying jobs, the last count I heard Nova Scotia had Seventeen, Federal Regional offices, while the province of Newfoundland and Labrador has neither Federal Office. I wouldn't call that an equal and fair country, given the resources that the province of Newfoundland and Labrador passes over to Canada, and the province of Nova Scotia passes over very few, if any? What resources does that province have anyway?

Can you imagine ice breakers stationed in Halifax? The ice surrounds the province of Newfoundland and Labrador. I think that any ship pertaining to Ice should be placed in the province of Newfoundland and Labrador. One ice breaker should be placed on the Island portion, preferably North East Coast and the other on the Labrador portion to make it fair.

It is crazy for that no to be the case. When an emergency arises that requires an ice breaker, why do the boats that are necessary to assist have to steam hundreds of miles further in some cases to get to the scene of the emergency?

Anonymous said...

Somebody is jealous of their neighbours.

Is the whole WORLD out to get Newfoundland??

Anonymous said...

THANKS FOR ASKING THE PERTINENT QUESTION.


"No" I'm not JEALOUS, not at all. I am ANGRY. For the greatest part of 58 years I was HAPPY under Canada, or I thought I was HAPPY. I thought it was a GIVE and TAKE situation, until I saw how bad the TAKE was on OTTAWA's and the REST of CANADA's part. But when I became fully apprised of the bad deal we got in Canada as it came into focus, I became very DISENCHANTED and now I am good an ANGRY.

Ottawa not only didn't see that our resources were shared with us, the owner, the province of Newfoundland and Labrador, Ottawa allowed the exploitment of our resources to the hilt and left nothing for us, the owner of the resources, while the other provinces and Ottawa prospered on our resources.

Ottawa didn't see to it that it spread the TRANSFER PAYMENTS, RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT monies, and FEDERAL REGIONAL OFFICES to the furthest Eastern reaches of its territory, the province of Newfoundland and Labrador, like it did to the West. Those monies doled out by Ottawa stopped at Nova Scotia to the East. As a result of not having the nutrients bleed out into the far reaches of its Eastern Periphery, it left a large land mass which makes up the complete Eastern Flank of Canada, the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador, dying for the lack of nutrients.

Yes, I am damn ANGRY, and I do not know what to do with my ANGER because Ottawa practices the Spin Cycle to extract itself from every situation it encounters, and because the LOUTS we have elected to look after this province FEDERALLY have toed the Party Line for Ottawa and are willing to do so until every bit of this province's life's blood is drained out of its body.

TOO BAD THAT OTTAWA HAS A PRACTICE OF DOLING OUT PATRONAGE POSITIONS AND OTHER PLUMS, WHICH ALLOW POLITICIANS TO TOE THE PARTY LINE FOR THEIR MASTER AND NOT FOR THEIR ELECTORATE. SO IF THE POLITICIN DOESN'T GET ELECTED, THEY ARE TOLD "DON'T WORRY BE HAPPY" YOU WILL NOT BE DISADVANTAED, YOU WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF. SO OUR POLITICIANS ARE LIVING IN AN IDEAL WORLD WITH A CADILLAC INSURANCE POLICY.

THE POLITICAL SYSTEM PRACTICED BY OTTAWA IS A CORRUPT SYSTEM. THERE IS NO WAY POSSIBLE TO MOVE FORWARD FOR A PROVINCE LIKE NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR, WITH SO MANY RESOURCES, BUT ONLY 2.2 PER CENT OF THE POLITICAL REPRESENTATION IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS IN OTTAWA. HOW DOES A PROVINCE WITH SUCH A DISPROPORTINATE SAY EVER GET AHEAD?

Anonymous said...

Blah Blah...Blah Blah....Blah Blah.

Anonymous said...

Thanks, that is all one can say. The sordid story tells it all. If you could have given a different story to counteract mine on what occured, I know you would have. But Ottawa engineered the whole mess as it relates to the province of Newfoundland and Labrador and the mess we are in. And now what was once a good union with a lot of trust on Newfoundland and Labrador's part towards Ottawa has turned bad.

WJM said...

WJM I am answering the of Anon`of April 20, 2007 8:09 PM and I really think it is you WJM.

You think wrong.

In my last post I gave the person the facts that there were several storms which occured in the province of Newfoundland and Labrador that were never forecasted by Halifax but hit this province anyway and caused misery to people. So that is my comparison.

It is only a meaningful comparison if the Gander weather office never, in the past, made the same bad forecast, or never will, in the future, do so.

WJM: Are you posting under WJM and Anon?

Nope.

I susupect that you are

You suspect wrong.

in the rest of your writings under the alias of WJM.

"The rest of my writings"?

All of them are under "WJM", which is NOT an alias, BTW.

Of course, if Myles would disallow anonymice, it would all be resolved.

WJM said...

We didn't need Gander closed in the first place. But Nova Scotia has a big mouth and greediness about it. The weather station which existed in Gander for 60 years was promised to Nova Scotia because Nova Scotia politicians lobbied for it;

When was it promised to NS?

Which NS politicians "lobbied" for it, and when?

WJM said...

Nova Scotia has more than its fair share of Federal Regional offices and high paying jobs

What is any given province's "fair share" of Federal Regional offices and "high paying jobs"?

While you're at it... what's a "high paying job"?

WJM said...

Ottawa didn't see to it that it spread the TRANSFER PAYMENTS, RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT monies, and FEDERAL REGIONAL OFFICES to the furthest Eastern reaches of its territory, the province of Newfoundland and Labrador, like it did to the West.

- NL has, until recently, had the highest per-capita transfer payments of any province, and it's still among the highest.

- NL's government, until recently, was the one whose revenues were most dependent on federal transfers.

- Alberta and British Columbia are both in the West. Alberta doesn't get the equalization component of federal transfers at all; B.C., in most years, doesn't, either.

- NL has a larger federal civil sevice presence than any of the four western provinces, or, for that matter, than Ontario or Quebec or the Canadian average.

Anonymous said...

I only answered "blah Blah..." because arguing with you stubborn-ass Newfies does nothing.

Yu refuse to listen to any voice of reason unless it mirrors your own limited, small-minded thinking.

Time to get off the island for a bit and see that there is life and meaning beyond NL's pitiful problems.

Anonymous said...

What a crazy character to admit you only answer "blah-blah" for the sake of an argument?

We have bigger problems to tackle in the province of Newfoundland and Labrador:Problems I might add that were created not by the people of this place, but from the outside, West of here, so why are you wasting our time arguing? Anyone who reads this blog can see what you are trying to do. You are trying to sabotage our postings.


Can't you see what we are trying to do has meaning, what you are doing is idleness?

You don't seem to make much sence when you say it is time to get off the island for a bit and that there is life and meaning beyond NL's pitiful problems.

Why get off this Island when we have resources, and we have a wonderful strategic location as it relates to North America and Europe and while there are still people living here who are working on IDENTIFYING AND FIXING the problems created by Ottawa.

Your words are worthless Gab. Would you please skip over the people who are trying to make a difference on this blog and go to another where you might have like-minded people.

Please stop sabotaging what is being done through this blog.

WJM said...

Why get off this Island when we have resources, and we have a wonderful strategic location

What resources?

How do places like the Netherlands or Hong Kong, which have effectively no natural resources, prosper?

What is strategic about the location, and why hasn't the strategic nature of the location already been harnessed economically?

Anonymous said...

"We have bigger problems to tackle in the province of Newfoundland and Labrador:Problems I might add that were created not by the people of this place, but from the outside, West of here"

Of course!! What was I thinking that a Newfoundlander would take any responsiblity for their own problems....
It's always everyone else's fault and you are all innocent down-trodden victims.

Boo-hoo.

Anonymous said...

You crazy Anon of April 23, 2007 9:01 AM


If you wanted to use your mind and brush up on the facts you would see who has created the problems in Newfoundland and Labrador. But obviously, you are too lazy to do so or you don't want to know the facts at all. All you contribute to this blog is complaints on the fact that you see us trying to do something positive, which in your mind is negative. Where is that getting the situation, when we are trying to put the facts across to Canadians, that is, if they will listen? But I doubt that they will, since they want the resources from this province to keep their own economies thriving. They have been nourishing themselves of the teats of Newfoundland and Labrador for 58 years now.

And no doubt the other 9 provinces had their voices heard and a say into what the Terms of Union that Ottawa drew up for the province of Newfoundland and Labrador would allow. That, no doubt, has contributed to the mess this province has had to endure without the use of our resources and as a result not being able to create economies here. We were taken to the cleaners. As we are seeing now, it impossible to wean them of our teats? How do we do it? Especially when 3 of our 7 seats are filled by ruling party politicians, who are only too willing to slaughter us by toeing the line for Ottawa and the other provinces of Canada.

We were screwed right, left and centre by the Federal Government right from the onset, and there is no other way of putting it, plus there is no way of getting out of it with our pitiful share of representation in the House of Commons.


It is all there to be seen if you were not as indolent as you appear to be Anon. But you do not want to get up off your backside and research the facts and become knowledgable, you just want to complain and use those childish words like Boo-hoo, like you have been doing for eons.

Down-trodden victims, like us, have no way of getting out of a situation that they are in. If you have followed the news over the past 2 months, you can plainly see that the Atlantic Accord that was drawn up for Newfoundland and Labrador in 1985 got changed without us being apprised of the changes. Also a set of figures was given to an independent accountant for the Equilization Formula, when he crunched them they favoured the Federal Government, but not the province of Newfoundland and Labrador, the Federal Government allowed those figures that made them look good to be in the Canadian Public News Media for a week, then they apprised the Accountant that they were wrong since they had made new changes. This accountant apparently presented his numbers to the Feds for their approval, they even gave him the approval and allowed him to present the wrong numbers. How much worse can it get? He was given another set of figures and they were crunched and show that the province of Newfoundland and Labrador was getting $11 Billion dollars less over 13 years than it was supposed to get. All because the Feds changed what we already had negotiated with them in 1985 and after. How can the Premier of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador deal with deceit like that? It is plain to see that we have no control when such back door changes can happen without our knowledge. And once we have the knowledge how can we change it, when it is up against 97.8 per cent of the seats in the House of Commons. As you know we only have 2.2 per cent of those seats, that equates to 7 seats out of 308 seats, and 3 of those 7 side with the Feds, since they are Conservative and they have to or they are out the door with none of the plums they will get if they stay and toe the line for Ottawa. They are okay, even if they do not get elected the next time around, but they do have to stay and toe the Ottawa line. Isn't that sick that we have to send politicians to Ottawa to do such a corrupt thing? For toeing the party line , the Feds have created remedies, guess what the remedies are referred to? They are referred to as plum positions. An insurance policy that gives obedient politicians 100 per cent protection. That is Corruption at its worse, isn't it?

If you are so bloody smart Anon , show me your smarts and tell me EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE TO DO TO CHANGE THINGS TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR ME AND MY COLLEAGUES IN THIS PROVINCE, without accusing me randomly that all I want to do is not take responsility for something, that I have no control over, but instead archaic rules which have been imposed upon me and the rest of my fellow Newfoundlanders and Labradorians by Ottawa and the other 301 seats in the House of Commons.

Don't post with the Boo-hoos and non-essential words that mean nothing, but make you look like a stunned person. Post something meaningful, even if you don't agree. And I want an answer with the solution or at least alternative! Or please stop the boo-hooing.


Professor Temelini of Memorial University of Newfoundland and Labrador said in the Independent Newspaper this week, that we were a country before we joined Canada, unlike the other 8 provinces. He also said we have the strategic location and the resources; and we could be as well off as any of the other Island Nations in the North Atlantic are, such as Iceland, Greenland and Ireland, which are all doing very well under the umbrella of the European Union.

Anonymous said...

I haven't seen one positive post by you people either.
It's all bitch, bitch,bitch about the federal govt.

Take your own advice.

WJM said...

And no doubt the other 9 provinces had their voices heard and a say into what the Terms of Union that Ottawa drew up for the province of Newfoundland and Labrador would allow. That, no doubt, has contributed to the mess this province has had to endure without the use of our resources and as a result not being able to create economies here.

Which Terms of Union do you find evidence for this kooky theory in?

WJM said...

but instead archaic rules which have been imposed upon me and the rest of my fellow Newfoundlanders and Labradorians by Ottawa and the other 301 seats in the House of Commons.

Which "archaic rules" are those?

Professor Temelini of Memorial University of Newfoundland and Labrador

Is this the same as Memorial University of Newfoundland? Or different?

said in the Independent Newspaper this week, that we were a country before we joined Canada, unlike the other 8 provinces.

I'm pretty sure there are NINE other provinces.

He also said we have the strategic location

"Strategic location" for what?

and the resources; and we could be as well off as any of the other Island Nations,

"Other island nations"?

Newfoundland and Labrador is not an island.

Newfoundland is, though.

Does that mean Newfoundland separation without Labrador? That might be a good plan.

As for resources, though... remember that last week the province noted that 98% of the province's mineral resources are in Labrador.

in the North Atlantic are, such as Iceland, Greenland

Is that the same Greenland whose gold ore is being processed in Newfoundland?

I thought it was forbidden, in Newfoundland nationalist religion, for a resource to ever move from one jurisdiction to another, in any state.

Or is it just that Newfoundland's resources are sacrosanct?

and Ireland, which are all doing very well under the umbrella of the European Union.

I'm sure the Spanish and Portuguese would love Newfoundland's offshore to come under the full jurisdiction of the EU.

Starrigan said...

Look it's WJM asking his stupid questions over and over again. Just take a look at the posts on this topic alone. Ottwally just keeps questioning every sentence that is posted. Don't believe me, just count the number of questions he poses. See there's lots and lots. These questions are not posed because he wants answers, no, he's just doing it because he's an a$$hole. You see WJM is actually paid by the government of Canada to go through these blogs, that is, blogs that are considered to be pro NL and he does his best to discredit everything that is posted. All you have to do is look through any number of posting here on Web Talk Newfoundland and Labrador to see that this is indeed a fact. He is also does various postings as anon. The effort he puts into this is amazing, but then again he is sitting on his butt in Ottawa hammering away at his keyboard and getting paid from our tax dollar to make us look like fools. That's the kind of country we live in folks. So in the future when WJM asks you a question, you can take comfort in knowing that you have made a valid point or he wouldn't be harassing you. Never waist you time answering his questions. Let's do our best to put this a$$hole out of a job. This moron is your basic bought and paid for traitor type. Not worth wasting your energy on.